<i>On this episode of Forward Ever: Leading in Challenging Times, host Gary Shorman speaks with First Call for Help Executive Director Macey Pfeifer.</i>

<div><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rXe7P6oCh-U?si=vVJzUELFTO6xIG4Y" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><p><i>On this episode of Forward Ever: Leading in Challenging Times, host Gary Shorman speaks with First Call for Help Executive Director Macey Pfeifer.</i></p>

🎤 Forward Ever: First Call for Help executive director Macey Pfeifer